Both pieces are marked with the makers mark. I could not determine the maker, partly because the underglaze mark is a bit blurry, it is unlikely to be Meissen but appears to be one of the Dresden porcelain factories. The item "Antique Dresden Porcelain Black/Gold Quatrefoil Demitasse Cup/Saucer" is in sale since Tuesday, September 22, 2020.This item is in the category "Antiques\Decorative Arts\Ceramics & Porcelain\Cups & Saucers". The seller is "alexandrasgallerycollection" and is located in Arlington, Virginia. This item can be shipped worldwide.